Saturday 26 January 2013

How to develop your castles and Outposts

How to develop your castles and Outposts



Hello Guys,

Everyday I get questions from various players of the game, where they want to learn how to attack. I visit their castles and OPs to check their development and then wonder, why do people always want to jump to level 10, instead of learning the basics. The most important aspect of this game is to develop your castles and OP correctly. And your focus should be on that. What I am about to suggest is a long term plan. It takes months to achieve it, and there is no shortcuts to it.


It is easy for beginners but tough for veterans, as they have already made their decisions and done things their way. Their way might not be the best way though. So there is no harm in rectifying your mistakes that you did unknowingly. There was no one to guide us when we started this game, even I made the same mistakes, but rectifying them now.

MAIN CASTLE


Let us start with the Main Castle in The Great Empire aka Greenland.
You can follow the same strategy for your Castles in

Everwinter Glacier aka Ice Guide for Everwinter Glacier
The Burning Sands Guide for The Burning Sands
Fire Peaks Guide for Fire Peaks

The only exception being that you can increase the number of Farms in these empires, as the Food RVs add to the production. And similarly, you can keep resource buildings lesser as Resources RVs add to the production.

People usually start playing this game keeping 1 thing in mind, attacks. Well, attacks are not bad, but dont attack till your defense is strong. Or one fine day you will login and see your castle all on fire and burning like hell.

Now here are the basics of how to develop your Main Castle (MC) for defenses.
The very first thing you need to develop are some farm houses to support defense troops. Then shift your focus towards resources. Build some Stone quarries and wood cutter. Never over do them. In the main castle, you can have around 12 farm houses and 4 stone quarries and wood cutters. You will be tempted to add more and YES, you can add more, if you are ready to demolish them going forward. Still never build any farm, stone quarry or wood cutter below 13% occupancy rate.

In the screenshot below you can see where to check the occupancy rate.


Ideally 100% and 75% are best. A lot also depends on your level and stage of the game. For example, I am level 60 player and it has been over 1 month that I have nothing to develop in my Green MC. I still need resources as I am doing my Researches in Research Tower. I have been playing this game for 3.5 months now, maybe in a month or two, I will be done with Researches also, then I will demolish all my Stone quarries and Woodcutters, leaving just 2 of each, for tools and future updates.

Now comes the most important aspect, the defense.
Once you start building your castle, I would suggest you to set priorities in this order.

1. Keep (Keep increases PO and defense and the construction speed of other buildings)
2. Farms (Just enough to support some defense soldiers)
3. Resource buildings (Just enough to cover the construction cost)
4. Walls (Increases Protection and PO)
5. Towers (Increases Protection and PO)
6. Gates (Increases Protection and PO)
7. Dwellings (Just enough to support constant soldier recruitment)
8. Farms again (This time to add more and more soldiers)
9. Resource buildings (Keep upgrading the existing buildings, enough to support further expansion)
and so on.........
10. Guardhouses - 5 or 6 important because of the new enhancements
11. Taverns -3 (Level 3)

PS: Do not build more than 2 dwellings in your MC. Keep upgrading them for now. Ideally there should be zero dwellings in the MC, better to have them in Outposts. Forget about the dwelling based task to get XP. You will get enough XP from other tasks. Once your castle and OPs are fully developed you can demolish these dwellings in your MC.

The basic idea of this game is to have Maximum soldiers and this complete guide is based on that. Resources, coins and everything else is secondary. You can win more if you have more attack and defense soldiers, that is the bottom line.

Now there are 3 things to consider here:

1. Food production
2. Public Order (PO) and Decorative Items (Deco)
3. The importance of space in the castle

FOOD PRODUCTION


Food production all of us know is increased by Farms. You can have as many as 12 Level 10 Farms in your main castle.I have 11 farms in my MC, all are Level 10, the 11th Farm has a Occupancy rate of 10% and gives me 31.9 Food per hour. If you are a ruby player, then instead of having so many farms, You can manage with 7 Level 10 farms + vet overseers + normal overseers. You motive should be to have a food production of 2100 - 2400/ hour. Your Target army size should be 1000 defense minimum. You may also think why not just build 30 farms and let them increase the food production. I will explain a bit later why more farms will harm us instead of helping us. Keep reading........

Now few things that help increase the production of Farm houses.

1. Is definitely the PO. We will discuss it later in greater length. Try to maintain a PO of 235%+ in your main castle.
2. Flour Mill: It increases the production of all farms in the castle. Level 3 gives a +30%  boost to the food production.
3. Bakery: Bakery reduces the food consumption of all soldiers in that castle. This is a must, and this has to be your first thing that you spend your rubies on. You can read more about Ruby Strategy and how to use them wisely. Don't blow away the free rubies the game gives you initially on speeding up building construction, if you are not a Ruby player, make sure to read the Ruby Strategy before you start spending them.

PUBLIC ORDER AND DECORATIVE ITEMS


Public Order represents the general mood of your population. In short, if they are happy they will work harder and all your buildings will have higher productivity and even your tools and soldiers would be recruited faster.

PO is the most important aspect in this game. Decorative Items and defense INCREASE PO, whereas Dwellings DECREASE PO. That is the reason I suggested you above to have only 2 dwellings in the MC in the beginning and zero later on.

Our target should be to keep PO above 235%. It is doable even if you are not a ruby player.
In the beginning try to build as many decorative Items you can, later on replace them with Parks. Parks are the highest PO non ruby Deco items.

If you are a Ruby player, go for Ruby Deco Items. Nothing better than that.
Also, always give it a shot at the events. Events give you good Deco Items. And Ruby/ Non Ruby players, everyone can get them.

Here are some of the Events/ Tournaments that I am aware of.

Herald of the Tournament (Individual)



The top 3 get Victory Column. it is small in space but has high PO. 135 PO.




This is an event that pops up once in a while. If you complete it on the winning side, you get a PO item called Grimbert's Oath. There are 2 sides, bear and lions. I chose Bear, so I know about Bear. Not sure what it is called if You are on Lion's side. This was my First Berimond event and I had no clue. I ended up spending some 200,000 rubies and when I got a deco item of 60 PO, I was disappointed. But I played this event to get Bear Soldiers and I got 4000 of them, so overall I was extremely happy. You can check various types of soldiers here: Troop and Tools stats for Goodgame Empire


Thorn King Event

Thorn King Event was an event that ended recently on Jan 17th 2013. You can click here to check the Complete Guide on Thorn King Event



It gives you a deco Item called Thorn Skull having PO of 80

All these Items do not have a Great PO, but they occupy very little space, thus that being their advantage. Ratio of space to PO.

This is how all 3 of them look in my main castle.


Colossus Event

Colossus event is an event wherein you have to contribute resources to build a high PO deco item. Initially it is easy, but once the PO reaches 150, it gets extremely tougher to increase the PO. The benefit of this event is that you spend no rubies and get a high PO deco item and above all, you can place this Colossus in any castle or OP. In rest of the events you cannot keep your deco item anywhere else than you main castle in Greenland.

Take a look.





Adventure Tasks

Another great way to get good PO items is to complete the adventure maps. You get map pieces by attacking RBCs. You may also want to read this post: How to attack RBCs
Once the map is complete you get an adventure task, defeating the main castle of the task gives you a good PO item that occupies very little space.



The importance of space in the castle


As I mentioned earlier, it is very important to save space in your castle, you wont realize it initially but once you reach higher levels and your castles are all build up. You will notice that there is nothing else to do. If you do not plan properly, you will end up having low PO and thus lesser production and low number of soldiers as compared to others.

The space in your castle is an extremely important aspect of the game. It is also based more on the need of the hour. For example initially you need more resources. Therefore, more resource buildings. Later on, you can cut these to a minimum to make way for Deco items & maximize farm numbers. Same with dwellings. Some would prefer to complete the dwellings quests before deleting them while others don't care about them & go for PO right away. End of the day it is Your choice :D


Now let us move onto your Outposts (OP).........

OUTPOSTS


Usually people try to capture 1 stone, 1 food and 1 wood OP. But in the longer run, you realize that it would have been better if you had all Food OPs and that too Shining OPs (8 food and 2 wood/stone). Please check this to figure out what are Shining Outposts. It is very important to know which outposts to acquire in GoodGame Empire.

Now again it is your decision. You would like to acquire Food Shining OPs from the word go, which will create a shortage of resources for you or you would like to capture and develop resource OPs and once done with researches, then move to Shining Food OPs. I did not have all this knowledge when I started playing. At the moment I have 1 Wood 6 OP, 1 Stone 6 OP and 1 Wood 8 OP. I am about to delete my OPs and capture Shining Food OPs. But If I knew about all this earlier, I would have definitely captured Shining Food OP. So it is your choice. Decide what you think is best.

If you have alliance members near by, ask them to help you with resources and you can help them with Food and that ways you can survive even with all 3 Shining food OPs. You can build strong army, support your neighbor alliance members with Defense troops. They can build a bigger army, you can supply them with Food, they supply you with resources.... remember it is a team game, not a solo act. Keep in mind that you can move your castle free of cost for the first time. So even if your alliance members are not near by, you can shift near them.

Now let us talk about the Shining Food OP and how to build it.

The basics remain the same as castle. Just keep the following in mind.


Number of farms - 15
Stone/wood - 4
Dwellings - 0
Guardhouses - 6
Target PO - 240%
Target food rate - 4500-4800/hr (get the normal +vet overseers)
Target stone/wood rate - 750-850/hr (w/o overseers)
Bakery Level 4 a must
Target troop capacity - 2000 per OP
Food research Level 5

In response to questions of best possible arrangement of a castle. I am attaching a screenshot of a player from whom I have learnt a lot and naturally is my Guru in this game. :P




Please do not forget to add your valuable Knowledge in comments below.

Remember, Rubies or big armies don't win you battles, Knowledge and tactics do!!
By Vishal Verma Google

64 comments:

  1. Can you post some things about the event Battle for Berimond?Because some people don't know about it including me.Never mind if there is no pictures.

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  2. Hello,

    Berimond is returning soon... within a week or two or even sooner.
    In berimond you get to choose sides, Bears or Lions.
    You need to develop your camp, same as Thorn event. Defeat and capture enemy players. Unlike Thorn, Berimond is a team game. All players are divided in 2 sides. Bears attack lions and vice versa. If you lose your camp, you can recapture it within 24 hours or so, and if you cannot then you get another camp, without spending entry fee again. Then you need to defeat enemy towers and then the main castle.

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    1. hey , vishal

      How much time interval is there b/w two battle of berimonds!!!!



      -snehal

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    2. Nothing for sure, but there was a time gap of like 3-4 months between last 2.

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    3. Is there a minimum level

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  3. But I don't get to play the thorn king event.I don't know why, maybe it is because of my level I am at level 24 now,so can I play that event? And do you know how they group your team? Is it by allince or by other methods?How much is the entry fee?

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    1. Thorn king is an individual event. No teams, only you alone fighting endless to gather resources. I dont recall the entry fee, check the blog post of Thorn, it should be there. And yeah, you have to be above level 30 to enter such events.

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  4. I really don't get to play the thorn king and the berimond event,but I check other players castle and found that there are decorative items like the thorn skull and gimbert's oath.I like your posts and it helps really a lot.How about the travelling knights event? Can say more about it.

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    1. Traveling Knights are very powerful. Grab them whenever you can. You primarily have to attack RBCs and gather pieces of the map. It is pretty easy. My suggestion is always send 10 loot carts with your attack, many differ with my opinion though.

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  5. I think you have to be minimum Level 30 to enter Berimond or Thorn King. As most of the high level players play this event. The entry fee is like 10,000 wood and stone and 5000 food and coins, or you can pay by Rubies.

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  6. http://chakravyuhalliance.blogspot.in/2013/01/the-battle-for-berimond.html

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  7. Hi, do you have any advise on what is the optimal building placement assuming I follow the above guide for a non-ruby player. I know every player has their own way of placing buildings/deco, what is your take on it? Thank you.

    Krom

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    1. Krom,

      Answered your question in the post above itself.

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  8. What if all of your alliance members took all of the shiny op but need to stick around your alliance and optpost

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    1. Hello,

      I really didnt get the question. Could you please clarify?

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  9. so bhutnath is ur guru right vishal

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    1. Yup.... A great friend and my Guru.

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    2. wt is ur player name vishal??

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    3. Check any of the screenshots, you will find it. :)

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  10. The question is if you are going to get a shiny op but their all taken in the area and you need to stay by your alliance members main what should I do

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    1. Thatz a tough one. Ideally we try to find a food OP near either of the following:
      1. Near my Main Castle
      2. Near main Castle of an alliance member
      3. 2 Food 8 OP near by

      In your case 3rd option would do. So you can keep like 1000 defenses in both of them and support each other in need of an attack.

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    2. After I posted this I realized you can move your castle so I found the best place to put it

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  11. When will there be Herald of the Tournament (Individual)again?And how do the travelling knights work? How to know the strength of king of the robber baron,and defeat it.They are usually far away and need lots of time to espionage.How do you produce lots of food in other kindoms?

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    1. Too many questions, LOL....

      Herald of the Tournament no clue when it will appear again. These events are random.

      Traveling Knights are just a bunch of powerful attack soldiers, nothing else to it.

      Espionage of King of RBC is necessary, no easy way, as it depends on the level of the player who is attacking.

      In other kingdoms, you can capture Food Resource Villages to increase food production.

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    2. So,what is the maximum soliders they give you for Travelling Knight?
      How much food do you produce in other kingdoms?

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    3. I think TK differ as per the level of the player. I have observed 2 types of events. For lower level, they have to find lesser number of maps/ relics, for higher level, they have to find more maps/ relics.

      I have different food production in different castles.

      Fire Peaks: 5700
      Desert: 5300
      Ice: 4750

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    4. LOL, I'm a non-ruby buyer and I'm producing over 6,300 food an hour in ice, imagine how many troops I would have with a level 4 bakery @_@!

      And you said you should have 800+ wood/stone an hour in your 8 food outpost. May I ask why? If you are done building your outpost, should one demolish and keep only 1 or two resource buildings for tools??

      And because of the "coin bug", you can't make 2 million coins anymore, which SUCKS. Do you STILL recommend 0 dwellings??

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  12. u said to demolish dwellings in m.c and op after lvl 60 . then how we will get coins .

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    1. Well well well, I have no Dwellings anywhere, yet I have 2 Million + coins at almost all times. You need to attack RBCs regularly to get coins. I collect like 300K odd coins everyday.

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  13. How many soliders do you have in fire peaks? Are all of them use to attack fortress?

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  14. I have some 2900 soldiers in Fire. I seldom attack the Fortress, usually lot of people are in queue to attack the fortress, so I attack my near by RBCs instead.

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  15. i like ur tips very much.......u r from chakrayuh??

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  16. i m a member from war specialist2......n read ur tips n tactics everyday.......can u tell me ur player name..n i wanted u to ask in my 6food outpost i have po of 1000 n now i building farms then very less food production is there by new farms.....i have to feed 500 heavy troops.wanted ur suggestion to increse food production..

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    1. You are looking at something wrong, You need to check the %age of PO. Try to keep it above 240%. And do not make farms after 10% Occupancy rate.

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  17. i want coins bt u say attack on rbc bt it will level up rbcs n then time will came the rbcs r very stronger..thn wt i will do(rahul saraf member of ws2)

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    1. Once you attack RBCs, you can focus on plundering Food, that ways you can have much bigger army. For example, my army everywhere would desert in 2-3 days. But I keep attacking RBCs everyday and never short of food.

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    2. bt the rbcs will become even more stronger that means deaths of soldiers......(rahul saraf from ws2)

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    3. So what Rahul,

      Your castles should have continuous production of soldiers and tools. So it wont matter.

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  18. i got u.....u r rafey69(rahul saraf)

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  19. hey i see my food outpost n see that there r 14 farms under 30% food production......i have 20 farms.bt bcoz of u now i will focus on first 6 food outpost....gow n chakrayuh r same?? n we r going to be ur big enemies so u r giving tip to ur enemy how to become strong...i think it may be ur big mistake....bt thanx for tips.i will stay in touch with u:)
    rahul saraf from war specialist2

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    1. You should work and upgrade farms with occupancy rate above 13%. Below that it doesnt make sense. GOW and CHV are Friendly alliances, been friends for a long time now. I personally feel no one is anyone's enemy. We all playing game here. And trust me, it is fun to fight with tough opponent. ;)So I will enjoy when you learn from me and defeat me 1 day. :) All in good spirit.

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    2. vishal u r right man.......i will work on farms above 13% occupancy rate.....bt now u have to attack me i think bcoz there is a war between gow n war specialist 2 n i attack ur member also powerfulkrish bt i lose.......i think u know that....ws2 n dragon warriors n all that...

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    3. Yeah, small things keep happening and this is a war game, LOL... Need some action. But I dont believe I will attack you....

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    4. nce.......this war gonna big....

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  20. one more thing bro.i will never cry if u attack me....its a honor for me that big players r attacking me...(rahul saraf from ws2)

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    1. Rahul,

      I dont attack anyone, I keep myself busy attacking the RBCs. In extreme cases I do attack, but it is like once in a month or so.

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  21. LEVEL 60 players are attacking me
    but i am in level 24 and i cannot attack level 15 plaver

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    1. Prince,

      I dont know what to tell you. :(

      This is the way GGE has made the game.

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  22. hii vishal i had 1000 plus rubies and it suddenly decreased to 12 rubies without doing anything.plyz answer me what to do..!!

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    1. Naman,

      You should get in touch with support. They once told me they keep a track of all rubies spent, so if you did not spend the rubies, then you should get it back from them.

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  23. thanx vishal bt can u tell me where can i got support

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  24. Naman,

    Check the option on right top of the game, there is 1 option for support.

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  25. where i would get the answer. on my email or at other place

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    1. If you mean answer from support, it would be on your email.

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  26. where i would get the answer at my email or at other place

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  27. Sir finally the total page views of this blog is going to reach one lakh. So how do you feel about this? :)

    ParkerZ

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    1. Oh, I never noticed that. Thanks a lot for bringing it to my knowledge. And I would like to thank all the visitors and participants for regular views and comments. Been a bit busy off lately, but would start publishing new stuff really soon.

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  28. I am hytech ur blog is vry cool ya :-)

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  29. Hi Vishal,

    How do we increase the PO percentage? And more decorative elements does not mean more PO percentage? Components of PO percentage?

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